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New Carvin 24 fret CTs.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: New Carvin 24 fret CTs. Reply with quote






Available in a 24 fret version now. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The middle 2 are very nice.

They beige pickups look stupid.

Are they emg, golly I hate those things. Laughing

The 2 in the middle are really nice with black pup.

Louis IIIIVX doesn't do it for me. The painted ones are OK but to plain.

What is the neck like?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would call the "current" Carvin neck shape closer to a medium "C".

My ST300 neck is definitely thicker and rounder feeling than my '89 DC-STs.
The '89s have the older thin "D" shape.

front x3
back x3
'89 DC127-ST, '09 ST300, 'DC200-ST.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are nice. Not a beige pick up in the bunch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?
I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup? It would be nice if they could add a single in the middle between the 'buckers. That would be my ideal setup. Some day maybe. Didn't they used to do custom specs like that?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?

That I don't know.

I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup?

I think it's a decent high output pickup. I've never felt the need to swap them out on the '89s. I think my favorite combo of Carvin pickups is the H22n/C22b combo I put in my Diodati. Reminds me of a Jazz/JB combo.
S22s (covered pickups) sound good too. A little more mellow sounding.

It would be nice if they could add a single in the middle between the 'buckers. That would be my ideal setup. Some day maybe. Didn't they used to do custom specs like that?
The DC145 and DC747 feature the H/S/H configuration.
I haven't seen anyone get a CT or CS yet with that config.
You could always call and ask though.
Once in a while they will do a non-standard option.
Also, known as an option 50. (anything non-standard)
But, it depends on the options, and how busy they are with orders.

Here's an option 50 they just did for a customer.
Rosewood neck.



The customer provided the rosewood block, and sent it to Carvin.

Some options 50's have become standard do to many requests.
Flame maple fretboard.
Birdseye fretboard.
Dragonburst finish.
Claro Walnut wood option.

To name a few.

It'll be interesting to see if the Rosewood neck becomes standard.

The 24 fret CT was also a request by forum members and others calling or emailing for it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grizzleygray wrote:
Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?
I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup? It would


THe scale stays the same. The pickups sit closer together so yes they add 2 frets and move the neck pickup closer to the bridge.

A big knock for a lot of people is the tonal difference between a neck pickup on a 24 fret guitar compared to the neck pickup tone on a 22 or 21 fret guitar.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archer wrote:
grizzleygray wrote:
Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?
I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup? It would


THe scale stays the same. The pickups sit closer together so yes they add 2 frets and move the neck pickup closer to the bridge.

A big knock for a lot of people is the tonal difference between a neck pickup on a 24 fret guitar compared to the neck pickup tone on a 22 or 21 fret guitar.


That was going to be my next question. It would seem that moving the pup back might make it just a fraction brighter. Not that it would necessarily be a bad thing, just different.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am one of the guys that doesnt like 24 frets very much if you are using a full size humbucker in the neck spot.

Ibanez and Joe Satriani came up with an interesting solution on the new JS 24 fret guitar by putting a mini humbucker in the neck position.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archer wrote:
grizzleygray wrote:
Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?
I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup? It would


THe scale stays the same. The pickups sit closer together so yes they add 2 frets and move the neck pickup closer to the bridge.

.


The thing is, I would agree.
But, you'd think that way would put the 23rd and 24th fret deeper into the body.
And access to those frets would be hindered compared to the 22 fret CT.
I.E. like a LP DC compares to a regular LP.

Or the CT24 would have to have a deeper cutaway than the CT22.





Granted, I'm sure these pics are mock ups for the website.
And hopefully soon we'll see actual pics of the new models.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That rosewood neck is sexy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kherman wrote:
Archer wrote:
grizzleygray wrote:
Dumb question: do they just add 2 frets to the base of the neck & move the neck pup back?
I am really considering a ct4. What do you think of the m22sd pup? It would


THe scale stays the same. The pickups sit closer together so yes they add 2 frets and move the neck pickup closer to the bridge.

.


The thing is, I would agree.
But, you'd think that way would put the 23rd and 24th fret deeper into the body.
And access to those frets would be hindered compared to the 22 fret CT.
I.E. like a LP DC compares to a regular LP.

Or the CT24 would have to have a deeper cutaway than the CT22.





Granted, I'm sure these pics are mock ups for the website.
And hopefully soon we'll see actual pics of the new models.


Either the guitars have a deeper cutaway, or the bridge is mounted closer to the neck pocket. Again, the scale length stays the same, but the actual piece of wood for the neck would have to be longer for the above to work.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The neck is longer and the neck pickup is close to the bridge as well as deeper cutaway.

I don't need the extra frets.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the strap button is over 13th fret with the 22 fretter, and over the 15th with the 24. That means they do the same I did when I made a 24 fret version of an LPDC - hang the neck a littler further out (about 2 frets, go figure) so the upper fret access stays the same, and shift the bridge a hair towards the upper bout to compensate for the longer neck.
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